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		<title>By: Emergency Fund &#8211; Your Take?</title>
		<link>http://ipickuppennies.net/2010/03/emergency-funds-yea-or-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-2312</link>
		<dc:creator>Emergency Fund &#8211; Your Take?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Emergency Fund - Your Take?  By Mrs. Accountability on March 22nd, 2010    Abigail from I Pick Up Pennies and Brad from Enemy of Debt had a huge discussion in the comments section of a post by Brad called When You&#8217;re Tired of Being Broke, You&#8217;ll Start Saving. Abigail followed up with a post at her site called Controversy or just quibbling? and then Emergency Funds Yea or Nay? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Emergency Fund &#8211; Your Take?  By Mrs. Accountability on March 22nd, 2010    Abigail from I Pick Up Pennies and Brad from Enemy of Debt had a huge discussion in the comments section of a post by Brad called When You&#8217;re Tired of Being Broke, You&#8217;ll Start Saving. Abigail followed up with a post at her site called Controversy or just quibbling? and then Emergency Funds Yea or Nay? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Carnival of Financial Planning &#8211; Edition #134 &#8211; March 26, 2010 &#124; Dividend Tree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carnival of Financial Planning &#8211; Edition #134 &#8211; March 26, 2010 &#124; Dividend Tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 11:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Perry presents Emergency funds: Yea or nay? posted at I Pick Up Pennies, saying, &#8220;The accepted wisdom is that emergency funds are [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Revanche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Revanche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having traveled the spectrum from incredibly broke to having an emergency fund, I can see your logic and in my world, you may not have an emergency fund per se, but you have an expenses fund.  I took a three pronged approach, holding back *some* money for savings (very minimal), paid down debt, and put anything I could towards current expenses to keep that debt from ballooning or growing. As long as I made progress on all fronts, miniscule though it was, I could keep chugging.   
 
It took me a long time and countless, thankless hours to kill off the debt because my parents weren&#039;t upfront with me in the very beginning about how much debt they had and did rack up more, but it&#039;s probably for the best. If I hadn&#039;t become aware of it in 10Kish chunks, I might have passed out.  Oops, that was a digression.  
 
I love having an emergency fund, but in my mind, it&#039;s incomplete without an expenses fund. From experience, my family is prone to .. well, anything, so I basically think of every possible thing that could happen in daily life and create a fund for it. And then back *that* up with unspecified cash because I simply don&#039;t know if at some point, I&#039;ll stop being able to earn income.   
 
I may become less neurotic over time, but I .. doubt it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having traveled the spectrum from incredibly broke to having an emergency fund, I can see your logic and in my world, you may not have an emergency fund per se, but you have an expenses fund.  I took a three pronged approach, holding back *some* money for savings (very minimal), paid down debt, and put anything I could towards current expenses to keep that debt from ballooning or growing. As long as I made progress on all fronts, miniscule though it was, I could keep chugging.   </p>
<p>It took me a long time and countless, thankless hours to kill off the debt because my parents weren&#39;t upfront with me in the very beginning about how much debt they had and did rack up more, but it&#39;s probably for the best. If I hadn&#39;t become aware of it in 10Kish chunks, I might have passed out.  Oops, that was a digression.  </p>
<p>I love having an emergency fund, but in my mind, it&#39;s incomplete without an expenses fund. From experience, my family is prone to .. well, anything, so I basically think of every possible thing that could happen in daily life and create a fund for it. And then back *that* up with unspecified cash because I simply don&#39;t know if at some point, I&#39;ll stop being able to earn income.   </p>
<p>I may become less neurotic over time, but I .. doubt it.</p>
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		<title>By: ndchic</title>
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		<dc:creator>ndchic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point taken.  I didn&#039;t realize that most of your credit card debt was from medical expenses.  I hope that you are able to get Tim some sort of health insurance so that this doesn&#039;t happen again in the future. 
Again, sorry, I didn&#039;t mean to be harsh </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point taken.  I didn&#039;t realize that most of your credit card debt was from medical expenses.  I hope that you are able to get Tim some sort of health insurance so that this doesn&#039;t happen again in the future.<br />
Again, sorry, I didn&#039;t mean to be harsh</p>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three problems I see with not having an emergency fund: 
 
1. Counting on credit being there. Yes, credit has been easy to obtain for most of our lives, but that might not always be the case. In fact, credit has been much harder to obtain throughout the recession, hence why people couldn&#039;t just keep borrowing. Many of us have had our limits lowered even while making above-minimum payments on time. If my husband and I had needed credit we would have been out of luck. We paid down one card and they lowered our limit to the new balance. We paid off another and they cancelled it. This is despite having a good income and stellar payment history. If they&#039;ll do that to us, how about someone in an actual emergency? Even if they did give you credit, it may be at much higher rates because they know they have you cornered.  
 
2. Counting on income being there, including safety nets. You count on your disability payment, but the government isn&#039;t perfect. It screws up sometimes and money doesn&#039;t get where it needs to go in a timely manner. It takes time to get on food stamps. It takes time to get unemployment. I had a friend lose her job and it took her MONTHS to get the unemployment she was owed. The bills didn&#039;t stop coming, though. 
 
3. Unexpected withdrawals. Unexpected expenses are one thing and you can put them on a credit card, however unexpected withdrawals are a good reason to keep money around somewhere for use until things get sorted out. For example, we have our mortgage on auto-pay, but one month it withdrew twice in about two days because the mortgage company had calculated the first payment wrong but then instead of refunding us the difference they sent through another bill thinking that the system would just ignore the first one. It didn&#039;t. Fortunately, we had enough in our checking as a &quot;buffer&quot;/ mini emergency fund to cover it until things got straightened out (which wasn&#039;t immediately as it happened at the end of the week).   
 
So, yeah, I&#039;m a big believer in having an emergency fund if there is any possible way to have one. I definitely sleep better at night having one and what I pay in interest to have one is not only worth it, it isn&#039;t so bad considering the what I might end up paying if I didn&#039;t have one and needed money quickly.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three problems I see with not having an emergency fund: </p>
<p>1. Counting on credit being there. Yes, credit has been easy to obtain for most of our lives, but that might not always be the case. In fact, credit has been much harder to obtain throughout the recession, hence why people couldn&#039;t just keep borrowing. Many of us have had our limits lowered even while making above-minimum payments on time. If my husband and I had needed credit we would have been out of luck. We paid down one card and they lowered our limit to the new balance. We paid off another and they cancelled it. This is despite having a good income and stellar payment history. If they&#039;ll do that to us, how about someone in an actual emergency? Even if they did give you credit, it may be at much higher rates because they know they have you cornered.  </p>
<p>2. Counting on income being there, including safety nets. You count on your disability payment, but the government isn&#039;t perfect. It screws up sometimes and money doesn&#039;t get where it needs to go in a timely manner. It takes time to get on food stamps. It takes time to get unemployment. I had a friend lose her job and it took her MONTHS to get the unemployment she was owed. The bills didn&#039;t stop coming, though. </p>
<p>3. Unexpected withdrawals. Unexpected expenses are one thing and you can put them on a credit card, however unexpected withdrawals are a good reason to keep money around somewhere for use until things get sorted out. For example, we have our mortgage on auto-pay, but one month it withdrew twice in about two days because the mortgage company had calculated the first payment wrong but then instead of refunding us the difference they sent through another bill thinking that the system would just ignore the first one. It didn&#039;t. Fortunately, we had enough in our checking as a &quot;buffer&quot;/ mini emergency fund to cover it until things got straightened out (which wasn&#039;t immediately as it happened at the end of the week).   </p>
<p>So, yeah, I&#039;m a big believer in having an emergency fund if there is any possible way to have one. I definitely sleep better at night having one and what I pay in interest to have one is not only worth it, it isn&#039;t so bad considering the what I might end up paying if I didn&#039;t have one and needed money quickly.</p>
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